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Google 可解释性负责人认为,当下所谓可解释性"突破"被严重夸大,原因是形势严峻、人们急于抓住任何好消息。Eliezer Yudkowsky 批评这种态度是"纯粹的天真",称造出螺丝刀能开始观察计算机内部,并不等于离最终目标有多近,就像以为有了显微镜就能解决神经科学。

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Is today's interpretability "breakthrough" a big deal?

No, says Google's interpretability lead.

Imo it's getting blown WAY out of proportion because the situation is so grim, and people are desperate for any good news

Eliezer says it's "sheer naivete":

"You having built the screwdriver so you can *start* looking at things [inside a computer] is not as much progress toward the end goal as you seem to believe.

It's like saying that neuroscience is gonna be solved as soon as you figure out how to look at a neuron with a microscope.

It reads as sheer naivete about how much work there is to do, because you don't concretely know about any of the things you need to figure out.

This attitude of yours does not inspire confidence."

Btw, Eliezer absolutely *does* update his views from time to time on good news. This just isn't one of those situations.

引用Eliezer Yudkowsky@allTheYud
Me: Mechanistic interpretability sounds like a good idea, yes. If we could learn something about how an AI was thinking, in enough detail to predict in advance what it would think even as the thought departed from human, that would be a bare beginning on the sort of understanding you'd needed to get started on AI alignment that wasn't just about hammering on an AI from the outside with SFT and RL. AI guys: We found a neuron that lights up when the AI thinks of the Eiffel Tower! Me: Cool. That does sound like it'd be a prerequisite to getting started on the important part eventually, someday. AI guys: Oh NO! There are MULTIPLE neurons that light up when the AI thinks about the Eiffel Tower! And some of those neurons also participate in OTHER concepts! We're calling this unexpected development 'polysemanticity' and 'superposition'. Me: That sure sounds like a thing that would happen, yes. I cannot say that I am impressed by you acting surprised about it. Let me know when you've gotten far enough in mechanistic interpretability to get started on the important part. AI guys: We have found that with BIG AIs you can often point to a SINGLE neuron that lights up when the AI thinks of the Eiffel Tower! Understanding AI thought processes is gonna be EASY PEASY! Me: Cool. Let me know when you've advanced to the point of getting started.
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